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-#
-msgid ""
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"title: How not to interview engineers\n"
-"date: 2020-10-20\n"
-"updated_at: 2020-10-24\n"
-"layout: post\n"
-"lang: en\n"
-"ref: how-not-to-interview-engineers"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"This is a response to Slava's \"[How to interview "
-"engineers](https://defmacro.substack.com/p/how-to-interview-engineers)\" "
-"article. I initially thought it was a satire, [as have "
-"others](https://defmacro.substack.com/p/how-to-interview-"
-"engineers/comments#comment-599996), but he has [doubled down on "
-"it](https://twitter.com/spakhm/status/1315754730740617216):"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"(...) Some parts are slightly exaggerated for sure, but the essay isn't "
-"meant as a joke."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"That being true, he completely misses the point on how to improve hiring, "
-"and proposes a worse alternative on many aspects. It doesn't qualify as "
-"provocative, it is just wrong."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"I was comfortable taking it as a satire, and I would just ignore the whole "
-"thing if it wasn't (except for the technical memo part), but friends of mine"
-" considered it to be somewhat reasonable. This is a adapted version of parts"
-" of the discussions we had, risking becoming a gigantic showcase of [Poe's "
-"law](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law)."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"In this piece, I will argument against his view, and propose an alternative "
-"approach to improve hiring."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"It is common to find people saying how broken technical hiring is, as well "
-"put in words by a phrase on [this "
-"comment](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24757511):"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Everyone loves to read and write about how developer interviewing is flawed,"
-" but no one wants to go out on a limb and make suggestions about how to "
-"improve it."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"I guess Slava was trying to not fall on this trap, and make a suggestion on "
-"how to improve instead, which all went terribly wrong."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "What not to do"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Time candidates"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Timing the candidate shows up on the \"talent\" and \"judgment\" sections, "
-"and they are both bad ideas for the same reason: programming is not a "
-"performance."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"What do e-sports, musicians, actors and athletes have in common: performance"
-" psychologists."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"For a pianist, their state of mind during concerts is crucial: they not only"
-" must be able to deal with stage anxiety, but to become really successful "
-"they will have to learn how to exploit it. The time window of the concert is"
-" what people practice thousands of hours for, and it is what defines one's "
-"career, since how well all the practice went is irrelevant to the nature of "
-"the profession. Being able to leverage stage anxiety is an actual goal of "
-"them."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"That is also applicable to athletes, where the execution during a "
-"competition makes them sink or swim, regardless of how all the training was."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"The same cannot be said about composers, though. They are more like book "
-"writers, where the value is not on very few moments with high adrenaline, "
-"but on the aggregate over hours, days, weeks, months and years. A composer "
-"may have a deadline to finish a song in five weeks, but it doesn't really "
-"matter if it is done on a single night, every morning between 6 and 9, at "
-"the very last week, or any other way. No rigid time structure applies, only "
-"whatever fits best to the composer."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Programming is more like composing than doing a concert, which is another "
-"way of saying that programming is not a performance. People don't practice "
-"algorithms for months to keep them at their fingertips, so that finally in a"
-" single afternoon they can sit down and write everything at once in a rigid "
-"4 hours window, and launch it immediately after."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Instead software is built iteratively, by making small additions, than "
-"refactoring the implementation, fixing bugs, writing a lot at once, *etc*. "
-"all while they get a firmer grasp of the problem, stop to think about it, "
-"come up with new ideas, *etc*."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Some specifically plan for including spaced pauses, and call it \"[Hammock "
-"Driven Development](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f84n5oFoZBc)\", which is"
-" just artist's \"creative idleness\" for hackers."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Unless you're hiring for a live coding group, a competitive programming "
-"team, or a professional live demoer, timing the candidate that way is more "
-"harmful than useful. This type of timing doesn't find good programmers, it "
-"finds performant programmers, which isn't the same thing, and you'll end up "
-"with people who can do great work on small problems but who might be unable "
-"to deal with big problems, and loose those who can very well handle huge "
-"problems, slowly. If you are lucky you'll get performant people who can also"
-" handle big problems on the long term, but maybe not."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"An incident is the closest to a \"performance\" that it gets, and yet it is "
-"still dramatically different. Surely it is a high stress scenario, but while"
-" people are trying to find a root cause and solve the problem, only the "
-"downtime itself is visible to the exterior. It is like being part of the "
-"support staff backstage during a play: even though execution matters, you're"
-" still not on the spot. During an incident you're doing debugging in anger "
-"rather than live coding."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Although giving a candidate the task to write a \"technical memo\" has "
-"potential to get a measure of the written communication skills of someone, "
-"doing so in a hard time window also misses the point for the same reasons."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Pay attention to typing speed"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Typing is speed in never the bottleneck of a programmer, no matter how great"
-" they are."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"As [Dijkstra "
-"said](https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD05xx/EWD512.html):"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"But programming, when stripped of all its circumstantial irrelevancies, "
-"boils down to no more and no less than very effective thinking so as to "
-"avoid unmastered complexity, to very vigorous separation of your many "
-"different concerns."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "In other words, programming is not about typing, it is about thinking."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Otherwise, the way to get those star programmers that can't type fast enough"
-" a huge productivity boost is to give them a touch typing course. If they "
-"are so productive with typing speed being a limitation, imagine what they "
-"could accomplish if they had razor sharp touch typing skills?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Also, why stop there? A good touch typist can do 90 WPM (words per minute), "
-"and a great one can do 120 WPM, but with a stenography keyboard they get to "
-"200 WPM+. That is double the productivity! Why not try [speech-to-"
-"text](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz3JeYfBTcY)? Make them all use "
-"[J](https://www.jsoftware.com/#/) so they all need to type less! How come "
-"nobody thought of that?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"And if someone couldn't solve the programming puzzle in the given time "
-"window, but could come back in the following day with an implementation that"
-" is not only faster, but uses less memory, was simpler to understand and "
-"easier to read than anybody else? You'd be losing that person too."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "IQ"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"For \"building an extraordinary team at a hard technology startup\", "
-"intelligence is not the most important, [determination "
-"is](http://www.paulgraham.com/determination.html)."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"And talent isn't \"IQ specialized for engineers\". IQ itself isn't a measure"
-" of how intelligent someone is. Ever since Alfred Binet with Théodore Simon "
-"started to formalize what would become IQ tests years later, they already "
-"acknowledged limitations of the technique for measuring intelligence, which "
-"is [still true today](https://sci-"
-"hub.do/https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F1076-8971.6.1.33)."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"So having a high IQ tells only how smart people are for a particular aspect "
-"of intelligence, which is not representative of programming. There are "
-"numerous aspects of programming that are covered by IQ measurement: how to "
-"name variables and functions, how to create models which are compatible with"
-" schema evolution, how to make the system dynamic for runtime "
-"parameterization without making it fragile, how to measure and observe "
-"performance and availability, how to pick between acquiring and paying "
-"technical debt, *etc*."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Not to say about everything else that a programmer does that is not purely "
-"programming. Saying high IQ correlates with great programming is a stretch, "
-"at best."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Ditch HR"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Slava tangentially picks on HR, and I will digress on that a bit:"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"A good rule of thumb is that if a question could be asked by an intern in "
-"HR, it's a non-differential signaling question."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Stretching it, this is a rather snobbish view of HR. Why is it that an "
-"intern in HR can't make signaling questions? Could the same be said of an "
-"intern in engineering?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"In other words: is the question not signaling because the one asking is from"
-" HR, or because the one asking is an intern? If the latter, than he's just "
-"arguing that interns have no place in interviewing, but if the former than "
-"he was picking on HR."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Extrapolating that, it is common to find people who don't value HR's work, "
-"and only see them as inferiors doing unpleasant work, and who aren't capable"
-" enough (or *smart* enough) to learn programming."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"This is equivalent to people who work primarily on backend, and see others "
-"working on frontend struggling and say: \"isn't it just building views and "
-"showing them on the browser? How could it possibly be that hard? I bet I "
-"could do it better, with 20% of code\". As you already know, the answer to "
-"it is \"well, why don't you go do it, then?\"."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"This sense of superiority ignores the fact that HR have actual professionals"
-" doing actual hard work, not unlike programmers. If HR is inferior and so "
-"easy, why not automate everything away and get rid of a whole department?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"I don't attribute this world view to Slava, this is only an extrapolation of"
-" a snippet of the article."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Draconian mistreating of candidates"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"If I found out that people employed theatrics in my interview so that I "
-"could feel I've \"earned the privilege to work at your company\", I would "
-"quit."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"If your moral compass is so broken that you are comfortable mistreating me "
-"while I'm a candidate, I immediately assume you will also mistreat me as an "
-"employee, and that the company is not a good place to work, as [evil begets "
-"stupidity](http://www.paulgraham.com/apple.html):"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"But the other reason programmers are fussy, I think, is that evil begets "
-"stupidity. An organization that wins by exercising power starts to lose the "
-"ability to win by doing better work. And it's not fun for a smart person to "
-"work in a place where the best ideas aren't the ones that win. I think the "
-"reason Google embraced \"Don't be evil\" so eagerly was not so much to "
-"impress the outside world as to inoculate themselves against arrogance."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Paul Graham goes beyond \"don't be evil\" with a better motto: \"[be "
-"good](http://www.paulgraham.com/good.html)\"."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Abusing the asymmetric nature of an interview to increase the chance that "
-"the candidate will accept the offer is, well, abusive. I doubt a solid team "
-"can actually be built on such poor foundations, surrounded by such evil "
-"measures."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"And if you really want to give engineers \"the measure of whoever they're "
-"going to be working with\", there are plenty of reasonable ways of doing it "
-"that don't include performing fake interviews."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Personality tests"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Personality tests around the world need to be a) translated, b) adapted and "
-"c) validated. Even though a given test may be applicable and useful in a "
-"country, this doesn't imply it will work for other countries."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Not only tests usually come with translation guidelines, but also its "
-"applicability needs to be validated again after the translation and "
-"adaptation is done to see if the test still measures what it is supposed to."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"That is also true within the same language. If a test is shown to work in "
-"England, it may not work in New Zealand, in spite of both speaking english. "
-"The cultural context difference is influent to the point of invalidating a "
-"test and making it be no longer valid."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Irregardless of the validity of the proposed \"big five\" personality test, "
-"saying \"just use attributes x, y and z this test and you'll be fine\" is a "
-"rough simplification, much like saying \"just use Raft for distributed "
-"systems, after all it has been proven to work\" shows he throws all of that "
-"background away."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"So much as applying personality tests themselves is not a trivial task, and "
-"psychologists do need special training to become able to effectively apply "
-"one."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "More cargo culting"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"He calls the ill-defined \"industry standard\" to be cargo-culting, but his "
-"proposal isn't sound enough to not become one."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Even if the ideas were good, they aren't solid enough, or based on solid "
-"enough things to make them stand out by themselves. Why is it that talent, "
-"judgment and personality are required to determine the fitness of a good "
-"candidate? Why not 2, 5, or 20 things? Why those specific 3? Why is talent "
-"defined like that? Is it just because he found talent to be like that?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Isn't that definitionally also [cargo-"
-"culting](http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm)[^cargo-"
-"culting-archive]? Isn't he just repeating whatever he found to work form "
-"him, without understanding why?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "What Feynman proposes is actually the opposite:"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"In summary, the idea is to try to give **all** of the information to help "
-"others to judge the value of your contribution; not just the information "
-"that leads to judgment in one particular direction or another."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"What Slava did was just another form of cargo culting, but this was one that"
-" he believed to work."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"[^cargo-culting-archive]: [Archived "
-"version](https://web.archive.org/web/20201003090303/http://calteches.library.caltech.edu/51/2/CargoCult.htm)."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "What to do"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"I will not give you a list of things that \"worked for me, thus they are "
-"correct\". I won't either critique the current \"industry standard\", nor "
-"what I've learned from interviewing engineers."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Instead, I'd like to invite you to learn from history, and from what other "
-"professionals have to teach us."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Programming isn't an odd profession, where everything about it is different "
-"from anything else. It is just another episode in the \"technology\" series,"
-" which has seasons since before recorded history. It may be an episode where"
-" things move a bit faster, but it is fundamentally the same."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"So here is the key idea: what people did *before* software engineering?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"What hiring is like for engineers in other areas? Don't civil, electrical "
-"and other types of engineering exist for much, much longer than software "
-"engineering does? What have those centuries of accumulated experience "
-"thought the world about technical hiring?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"What studies were performed on the different success rate of interviewing "
-"strategies? What have they done right and what have they done wrong?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"What is the purpose of HR? Why do they even exist? Do we need them, and if "
-"so, what for? What is the value they bring, since everybody insist on "
-"building an HR department in their companies? Is the existence of HR another"
-" form of cargo culting?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"What is industrial and organizational psychology? What is that field of "
-"study? What do they specialize in? What have they learned since the "
-"discipline appeared? What have they done right and wrong over history? Is is"
-" the current academic consensus on that area? What is a hot debate topic in "
-"academia on that area? What is the current bleeding edge of research? What "
-"can they teach us about hiring? What can they teach us about technical "
-"hiring?"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid "Conclusion"
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"If all I've said makes me a \"no hire\" in the proposed framework, I'm "
-"really glad."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"This says less about my programming skills, and more about the employer's "
-"world view, and I hope not to be fooled into applying for a company that "
-"adopts this one."
-msgstr ""
-
-msgid ""
-"Claiming to be selecting \"extraordinary engineers\" isn't an excuse to "
-"reinvent the wheel, poorly."
-msgstr ""